Can we has new speed?

One could always write in triplets. :emot_twisted:

Or double time 6 bar measure.

Thinking about this, a 6 bar double time measure sounds grossly messed up and awkward af, which can only mean one thing…

…that it must be done! :grimacing:

Imma give it a try boys.

Anyone else up to the challenge? :smirk:

hella

I don’t even know what that means but I think the challenges should be less specific and more style suggestion. But you can still do it if you want.

I write in triplets a lot. I have done tuplets as well. But yeah you can creatively change the perception of tempo.

The only thing I’m missing with embers is like closer to 120. It’s just a vibe you can’t do with embers but that’s ok. I can still make music in that tempo any time I want.

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If I recall @Oura actually posted something on DOA that got me looking into writing in 1/4 note triplets.

You could 1/4 note triplet 163.75 and have an underlying 122.8125 3:4 pattern. Switching back and forth or layering at will. If done right, you could get some killer Tembers out of it!

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Not sure if my math is correct, but:

5 bar measure @ 145

I think that would make 116 bpm:

(4/5) x 145 = 116

I have done it with DNB. It’s something like 172 - 129. So yeah that would be about right for Jembers.

I think it’s neat and worth messing around with but I don’t find it super useful because people just don’t understand what’s happening. So the effect is just lost on most people.

Could you post a link with an example of this? Not sure I’ve fully wrapped my head around what’s happening here.

A bar and a measure is the same thing. You are talking about 5/4 but its a fake 5/4 because you still count it as 4/4. My way is the other way around where you divide the measure into 3 as a 1/4 note triplet. But it’s really 4/4 that sounds like 3/4. But then you can pair that with trip 8ths and 16ths which gives it a more natural flow than 5 would.

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I have a basic Ableton project laying around somewhere if you’re on Live. It’s what I used to work it all out myself :badteeth:

172/129

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I did get it wrong, yes. Stilling learning here.

What I meant was a 5 note measure, I think? Instead of the usual 4.

As to your suggestion, I’d need to see it to understand it Oura.

One pattern example. I think the grid is in 1/8 note triplets in this screenie, but same as 1/4 note.

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Yeah it’s a beat or 1/4 note. But this is where it’s confusing because the 1/4 note isn’t 1/4th. But still that’s how musicians talk about it.

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I’m gonna watch some YouTube videos to help gain a better understanding. Right now I don’t even know the basics.

This is the way. A little tip tho, if you can handle it, get the basics from a piano player or guitarist. The producers will most likely steers you in the wrong direction.

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I think I’m gonna be talking about theory on Saturday btw. We are going to learn to express a key. We will do some harmony and a melody. Along with sound design.

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I’ll be be there. Thanks.

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That would actually be 5/6, where you would count 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, with emphasis on the 3.